The Problem With Making Hax$ A Martyr Is the Cause Makes No Damn Sense

When I shared my post about the deceased Super Smash Bros. Melee player Aziz “Hax$” Al-Yami, I expected being told to kill myself. 

Truthfully, this is mostly a function of Twitter (sometimes called ‘X’ by the worst people in the world). Being owned by a white supremacist, breeding-fetish jerkoff with millions of followers kind of sets the stage for the kinds of interactions you get. If you look at any shares on Reddit or Bluesky, the comments section is far quieter, and I’m sure that has very much to do with not being mired in the primordial soup of degeneracy.

But I’m no hack – despite a rather large amount of commenters who simply laundered their seething hatred towards sexual minorities (likely having to do with some kind of repressed psychosexual disorder) through their posts, that certainly wasn’t every commenter. This is a heated topic, one that a lot of people feel many different ways about, and not everyone can express that in the cleanest of ways. Healthy disagreement is always good

However, I couldn’t help but notice that some of the most ardent detractors had such a fervor in their posts when it came to what Al-Yami’s death “meant”, a zealotry that struck me as bizarre. We’re talking 0 follower goofs with 230 posts, all made within the last month, that post exclusively about Hax$. It’s possible that these are just alt accounts that some have made in order to safely bang on about this issue without coming across as obsessed or deranged on their main account. There’s another likelihood: this is the predictable consequence of trying to make someone into a martyr, a person whose death, specifically, can have a quasi-religious meaning towards a greater end.

There are ways in which this can be a benign feature of fandom. Many reached out to me privately, saying that they had an admiration for Al-Yami for multitudes of reasons not strictly related to his banning. Some were impressed that he worked his way through a severe injury in order to play again, others thought his dedication to Melee and explanatory videos doing deep dives into the system mechanics of the game were really cool. Others still seemed to have noticed and possibly related to some of the traits more related to his mental health struggles, which made them want to root for his success. This is a pretty natural thing, and an outpouring of emotion related to those could be totally understood.

Where I get lost is when there is a protracted effort to extract a “meaning” from Al-Yami’s death that can be constituted into some kind of grassroots, political action. Specifically, there seems to be a desire to “hold people accountable” for his death, as if it was murder rather than neglect and self-harm. In the rush to do that, Al-Yami, in life and death, is now woven into this grand tapestry, a struggle that is both overt and covert, where many members of the community are involved in a cause and they don’t even know it yet. What is the cause?

I’m…not really sure.


From the dozens of replies to my blog, it would be reasonable to take away these broad positions of this so-called “movement”:

  1. Al-Yami should never have been banned in the first place, and even if an initial ban was necessary it should have been for a short amount of time
  2. William “Leffen” Hjelte should have been permanently banned from tournaments for crimes done over ten years ago and/or acting the same way Al-Yami was
  3. Tournament organizers for Melee need to have their power taken away for “silencing a victim of abuse” in Al-Yami and making him a pariah

Al-Yami’s death has provided the perfect blunt instrument to wield as a sort of moral authority. With that authority, the intent is to make some kind of political ask and hope that the stick they’ve made is large enough to bash the brains in of this authoritarian tournament organizer structure to win the day.

If nothing else, the incoherence alone should be enough to make this political movement entirely toothless. But I still think there’s something to be taken from a closer examination, since it is a very notable focus of obsession for many posters out there. So much so, in fact, that people who knew Al-Yami and want to eulogize his more positive traits are afraid to do so for fear of getting this political brigading in their mentions. It’s an understandable fear, but one I don’t share, and I hope I can make it a little bit less scary by showing the completely vacuous “morals” that allegedly exist at the heart of this sham.

But one thing at a time. I’ll do my best to steelman these positions before I give my critique:

  1. Al-Yami should never have been banned in the first place, or at least only for a short amount of time

To briefly recap, Al-Yami was initially banned from most Smash events because his hours-long videos crusading against Hjelte in 2021 were seen as harassment of a high degree, including several instances of slander where it was alleged, with no proof, that Hjelte intentionally lied to ruin other people’s lives. 

The movement would say that this, itself, was a miscarriage of justice. It’s now commonplace for many to say that the form – an overly dramatic video presentation where Hjelte is compared to Hitler and fictional mass murderers and frequently referred to as a sociopath with no feelings – was out of line, but the message was right. In that case, they refer to some significantly cleaned up videos where Al-Yami is less dramatic in his claims, with fewer comparisons to brutal dictators.

There is justification for a reprimand of some kind, they say, but a year and a half ban from locals was far too harsh. As a victim of abuse and harrassment himself, Al-Yami should not have been punished for speaking out what he believed to be true. To put it more simply, “harassment” is in the eye of the beholder and should not be punished so severely by community leaders, especially if it is believed to be true.

  1. William “Leffen” Hjelte should have been permanently banned from tournaments for actions done over ten years ago and/or acting the same way Al-Yami was

This point is meant to speak to the hypocrisy of the Melee organizers. Hjelte, sometime around 2011-2013, as a teenager, could be said to have engaged in harassment of a severe nature, including mocking a fellow player’s disability. The nature of it was so overwhelming that he was banned for a year from attending tournaments in his home country of Sweden. The argument would be that since that banning he has shown little remorse for what he did then, and has only continued to engage in harassing behavior since.

Particularly, Hjelte is said to have harassed the player Juan “Hungrybox” DeBiedma to a similar degree that Al-Yami did to Hjelte himself. By publicly stating his personal distaste for DeBiedma’s character and making a Youtube video where DeBiedma was portrayed as a devil in the thumbnail, Hjelte could arguably be engaging in targeted and serial harassment. Further, by sharing an alleged victim’s public exposé about Gonzalo “Zer0” Barrios and revealing a prior interaction that disturbed him in this new context, Hjelte was doing as malicious a smear as was accused of Al-Yami. The fact that he was never held to account by community leaders shows that there was a bias against Al-Yami for unknown reasons, which resulted in his banning while Hjelte’s discretions were ignored. If Hjelte couldn’t acknowledge why he was banned and continued to act in the same way, he should have been banned again permanently, since that is what Al-Yami received for allegedly doing the same thing.

  1. Tournament organizers for Melee need to have theirpower taken away for “silencing a victim of abuse” in Al-Yami and making him a pariah

Here we come to the grandest political ask, a dismantling meant to be done in the spirit of “never again”. Al-Yami’s life took a large downward spiral after his ban, to the point where he pleaded publicly and often that he needed to be able to compete in Melee tournaments again, begging for forgiveness from the organizers that had banned him. This reprieve would never come, and it is often believed that this is what led to his suicide attempt and eventual death.

The organizers could see he was suffering, but none were willing to grant mercy out of cruel lack of empathy, they’d say. They couldn’t see that Al-Yami’s life was completely fixated on Melee, and that clearly he would not be dead today if he could still compete and be “Hax$”. Some are willing to admit that yes, that is an unhealthy mindset – but it is from a place of passion, not sickness, that Al-Yami obsessed so hard over Melee. It would also be argued that tournament organizers have no business trying to evaluate the mental health, or police every action, of players – the fact that Al-Yami had to meet such a high standard is an indictment of unfair standard more than anything. 

Worst of all, the fact that an un-ban would have required Al-Yami to no longer interact with or discuss his allegations against Hjelte publicly was a shocking abuse of power. With great power comes great responsibility, and these Melee organizers have abandoned that responsibility by needlessly overpolicing Al-Yami until he couldn’t take it any more. Organizers, when presented with the dire state of Al-Yami’s mental health, should have forgone their ban and let him back in with no unfair conditions held over his head, and the fact that they didn’t means they are responsible for his death.


I mentioned the word ‘incoherent’ earlier, and I think I may return to it a few more times. I have tried and tried, in good faith, to understand this nascent movement’s objectives and I’m left completely wanting. 

On its face, the claims contradict one another. If you believe that Al-Yami’s videos, the accusations, the intensity, does not constitute harassment…how could anything that Hjelte has done since his ban possibly be harassment worthy of a ban? A joke thumbnail is now the same as saying someone is out to “kill the Smash community” and takes his queues from Adolf Hitler? Really? And don’t even get me started on the “He believed it to be true” defense. Al-Yami’s main argumentation against Hjelte was that Hjelte made up defamatory accusations against another person and had Al-Yami’s ex-girlfriend distribute it – what if Hjelte believed those accusations to be true? Would they no longer be defamatory? This all goes without saying that it’s very clear that many people in this movement just don’t believe you should be banned for any reason outside of violent action. So Hjelte would be in the clear again! Competely unserious.

Also, what is this argument that if someone threatens suicide, then that alone is cause to forego any prior disciplinary actions? If that was a serious statement in almost any other relationship context, these would be described as the actions of an abuser! Do these people have such little respect for Al-Yami, even in death, that they’d want to cast his actions in the worst possible light by highlighting that he would use emotional blackmail? I can’t think of a greater smear to someone’s reputation than that, yet they insist on making this argument. 

Because they will never actually talk to these legions of Satan they believe Smash community representatives to be, they will never know the truth regarding the extent of the harassment Al-Yami was sending people. Using alt accounts and proxies, Al-Yami would get around blocks from these organizers in order to beg in their DM’s and hint vaguely at suicidal ideation. Even amidst negotations to get him unbanned, many organizers had to disengage because he would not respect boundaries.  Apparently tournament organizers, even if they are local and have known the player for years, had no right to affirm their social boundaries, or ask people not to be abusive when they’re trying to help. They’re there to just shut up and take it, because they are barely human and don’t deserve anything else. Charming!

It’s also hard to ignore the sheer brute retributive aspect of all this, as well as the extremely skewed view of Hjelte coloring the politics. One of the things I tried to show in my original post was that perhaps, with some healthy distance and a more sober analysis, one might find that Al-Yami’s claims of stalking and harassment from Hjelte were colored by the same diseased thinking that made him say, for example, that Hjelte was scheming to wear the same colored pants as him to mock him. Somehow no one in his movement has considered, if only for a moment, that if you find yourself agreeing wholesale with personal analysis from a person who is admittedly suffering from alcholism and psychosis, the logic might be twisted. In fact it might be more accurate to call this anti-logic, something more akin to pure lizard-brained survival instincts boiling in a pot of nerve endings and depressants. 

But, for the sake of argument, let’s just roll with that. Let’s say that everything should be tit-for-tat, an eye for an eye. Apparently the worst part about Hjelte is that he clearly hasn’t changed since was banned as a teenager, that he clearly still thinks he did nothing wrong and that recidivism is a-okay in his book. If that’s the thinking, then how was Al-Yami any different, morally speaking? Remember, he was unbanned from his major NYC local, for at least a year, and through no one’s fault but his own he continued to foster and spread these allegations against Hjelte. If a TO expressed a boundary that that is not cool and it wouldn’t be tolerated…why would that be worthy of disrespect? “‘Cause it’s bullshit”? Again, we’re back to the infinite regress of ‘slanderous allegations are wrong unless you believe them to be true’, which is a statement so stupid it’s not even worth interrogating, and taking manic, paranoid beliefs as the God’s honest truth with with no scrutiny. I truly don’t know what Hjelte did to some of these people to earn such a consistent, sustained harassment campaign, but it’s clearly not really about Al-Yami anymore, if it ever was.

At what point is all this just a contrived narrative to Trojan-Horse in longstanding unrelated grievances? None of the logic holds up, it’s playground-level analysis gassed up to sound like the Magna Carta. You have to believe that some of the folks involved in spreading this narrative are smart enough to see how silly it is. But obviously, the point isn’t to have a cohesive political message, it’s just to use that skin in order to harass people they already don’t like, with a moral cudgel that they feel was wrongly used against them before. It’s just pathetic and embarrassing, really. Someone got banned from playing in Smash tournaments because they got caught using an alt account to talk about how trans people are the devil, and now they want to take the moral high ground. Get real.

I think the most disgusting part is that because this is all just a game, no bad tactics and only bad people, it doesn’t matter that one side clearly lies with snakes, or that people who don’t know any better get caught up laying with them. The avowed racists, the antisemites, the transphobia, the gay-bashing that comes out frequently on any Hax$-related topic is just the weapon that randomly spawned on the map. Even if they disavow it, they’re okay with using those types as the foot soldiers in this arduous, stupid war, because the ends justify the means. Now Al-Yami’s reputation, which he was distraught over losing and clearly would have given anything to get back, has, in his death and without his consent, been welded to this unholy alliance between aggrieved gamers and the Fourth Reich. 

And for what?

When I tried to focus the attention on the very real mental health struggles that Al-Yami had, it was coming from a place of empathy. I knew that the conversation about him on social media was incredibly dark, that a lot of people refused to weigh in because they didn’t know how to address it without their mentions turning to shit for a few hours. A new perspective, one divorced from the ugliness playing out, could, I feel, be a little wiggle room in an otherwise unbearable conversation, that could divorce the nasty-but-real aspects of Al-Yami’s last few years from the better memory that many had of him, and the impact he clearly had on a certain generation of Smash players. Better to remember the person they had genuine, kind, and funny interactions with than someone lost to his worst impulses due to a terrible and debilitating mental illness.

I got told a lot in my mentions that I “lacked empathy” for this perspective, that I clearly had a heart of stone because I couldn’t see how this person was tortured by people and that I ignored years of abuse which caused the mental collapse. To that, I say this – I have more empathy in my pinky toe than this entire movement does. I can close my eyes and imagine myself in a scenario where every lingering fear and doubt I’ve ever had is pulsing against my conscious mind, and although I recognize that it’s unhealthy and dangerous, I find myself completely unable to resist indulging them, which will set my life on fire. I’m also able to put myself into the shoes of someone who has a friend that is clearly suffering from something that is beyond his or my control, of having to make the incredibly difficult decision to cut them off as they keep harassing you over and over again and trample my boundaries. I can disagree with some of their tactics, the logic underpinning their judgement, while still understanding that there was no easy or right answer. 

As always, the accusations are projection. Empathy isn’t solely channeling the anger and directing it in a blind rage at people you stubbornly and mistakenly believe caused someone’s death. It is not more empathetic to spend your time on social media harassing innocent people for expressing their true thoughts while you post pictures of someone half-dead in a hospital bed. There is no empathy in making a public viewing of the deceased, with their pale, suited corpse on display, into a spectacle and trying to make a viral moment for the clapping seals that give you headpats online. And there is certainly not an ounce of empathy in frequently telling someone struggling with manic phases and paranoid thinking that the people they think are out to get him are real, and he should continue to indulge his hostile brain that is slowly killing him. 

Take your martyr narrative and blow it out your ass. Get your damn kiddie pool politics out of games and grow up.

23 responses to “The Problem With Making Hax$ A Martyr Is the Cause Makes No Damn Sense”

  1. Well said. I have completely lost track of what the movement wants, and it’s god to point out the hypocrisy. Some statements from Hax and the movement he regretfully started include that he was young in 2021 and grew a lot since then, whilst as recently as May 2024 he was still calling Leffen evil.

    I find that the melee scene has another issue with minors, in that they can’t move on from things that people had done whilst one.

    Anyone who has had a bully who’s became a celebrity would know that actions done when a minor is essentially worthless to the media. My bully in school blinded a girl with a stone, and the guy recently got an OBE. Newspapers are desparate for dirt on this guy, but there’s no way they’d take his criminal actions when he was a kid because he was a minor.

    This as a concept is basically how it works (with exceptions to murder or something), and I think it wasn’t considered by Hax, or anyone who watched his videos unquestioningly.

    I also find that there’s a push from (I don’t know what else to call them) the free hax movement where they outright deny that he had any mental health issues at all, despite Dark Genex’s post, despite his videos where he talked about his psychosis and his doctors appointments (including saying he regretted not listening to someone who told him to immediately get help and apologise), and how he said he had post traumatic stress disorder, which seemed to have been triggered by smashboards post looking at his statements in evidence.zip 1.

    I honestly don’t know what there is to gain from this other than to use him to hurt TOs, by putting the blame for his death entirely onto TOs. Trojan horse is probably the best metaphor.

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    1. From technicals latest bid the movement clearly states that no one should be banned for saying hate speech. Yea trans people existing in the community is what bother them. They are shocked when they make posts online multiple times saying trans people should hang themselves. That isn’t a hypothetical but the exact reason they were banned. The rest angry banned player movements are people banned for pedo, sexual assult, and neo nazi stuff. I’m not kidding.

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  2. You speak of the moral culpability of to the people associated with “the movement” with an assumed moral superiority of your own positions. This, in itself, represents the problem with the community at large. It is filled with people like you that have assumed moral positions that you assume are unassailable and you are unwilling to even entertain the idea that some of the moral stances you have taken have valid criticisms against them. You speak of Nazis on the Hax side, which is an unfair characterization since it does not represent a significant portion of the movement, while also failing to consider the prevalence of pro-Palestine people in your ranks. Palestine being a country which elected Hamas as their government, and Hamas being an unambiguously terrorist organization which poses a far more real threat to people in real life than any internet Nazi larper. Your priorities are completely misplaced. You should have more moral condemnation for an active terrorist group than for a group that has been so thoroughly defeated that their presence amounts to nothing more than a boogeyman in the current political ethos. But because you are a fully brainwashed leftist, you cannot see the errors and moral failings of your own side. You cannot understand that the vast majority of the people in the world will hold transphobic beliefs, and that those beliefs are both logically and morally justified. You are so entrenched in propaganda that you have convinced yourself that this extremely minority position is something you can cast moral judgement upon others over, judgement enough to ban them from events because they hold a position that a large majority of people in the world hold. The UK’s Supreme Court just ruled last week that the term “woman” does not include trans woman, a clear rejection of the ideology that you hold. And you have the option to reflect on that as a result of the flaws of your own belief system, or you can double down and continue to think that everybody else has the problem. Based on this write-up, it’s pretty cleary what you will choose.

    What “the movement” wants is to excise the deep political bias that exists in the leadership, the same bias that you are displaying in this post. When players are competing for cash prizes which lead to career opportunities through winnings and exposure, personal animus should not make them eligible to compete. But this has been the case not only with Hax, but with several other banned players. It’s not just a game anymore, it’s financial and career opportunities. And TOs should not be able to gatekeep those opportunities just because they personally dislike somebody.

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      You and this post are so profoundly retarded that you did not even make it 3 sentences in before you decided to drop the facade and start regurgitating Culture War talking points.

      You’re ractically foaming out of the mouth to talk about how Trans people are bad, or how Palestine is Hamas or something— the points don’t even matter, it’s just that you’re doing exactly what OP was too retarded to explain properly; needing to write a short novel to explain something that can be done in 3-4 sentences, but it’s whatever I guess.

      Point is, I don’t think you care all that much about Hax$, and moreso the boogeymen “Leftists” that keep you up at night. Go grift somewhere else.

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    2. One of the most prominent people in this movement is a dude named manalord. He was in active communication with Hax and used him for his own agenda. Manalord is a self professed neo nazi. Thats not a exaggeration.

      Then you schizo posted this about palestine and made it s left/right issue. Which is a self report if I ever heard one.

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  3. Did you even read the article lmao, look at bro doing exactly what was being talked about in the article, using hax$ for their own culture war talking ponts.

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  4. It’s really hard to take this article seriously; interlaced with the random culture war adjacent pot shots is a pretty poor understanding of what the Smash community is.

    To be clear; I think the Smash community is not responsible for Hax’s death, insofar that I am not technically responsible for the death of a lifelong friend of mine, despite him having a non-contagious disease that I possess a low effort cure for, but yet repeatedly cast him away from myself anyway. It’s true; maybe the state should’ve done something about it. It would’ve been such a burden on me! His presence makes me uncomfortable!

    You’ll have to forgive me for making sweeping generalisations that are nonetheless true, but the Smash community is extremely left wing. Smash is definitely not unique in this aspect; plenty of other communities-that-are-mostly-online-but-meet-sometimes attract people of similar profiles; normally social outcasts who don’t have much going for them. This is pretty harsh; but I’d say fair. Dropping out of school is pretty common, and very rarely will you find a smasher who went to a moderate-strongly placed university, or anything else that you would consider at least 10% centile of ‘successful.’ Friendships and communities select for assortative traits; so it is telling when someone like EE can rise to the top of your social hierarchy; someone who couldn’t answer how long it took a plane travelling at 250mph to travel 250 miles. This sounds like an irrelevant dig; and maybe alone it doesn’t mean much. But when lots of your community is like EE you’ll notice that being a smash player is a pretty large predictor of Being Stupid.

    You should also be very sceptical of the Smash communities honesty; after all, this is the community that famously had at least a hundred of their community members outed all at once in a truly, never before seen turn of events for sexual misconduct. Anyone who has attained a high status in an ingroup like Smash before knows that rumours spread and people know about sexual misconduct and paedophilia while it’s going on. You’ll have to believe the current Smash figureheads that they definitely Never Heard Anything about any sexual misconduct or paedophilia, which is why they never thought to report it before it all tumbled out.

    Remember, this is the same community who famously donated $60,000 dollars to Nairo after he put out a twitlonger and some famous people said he was OK (remember, stupid?) The same community that, when someone from the outgroup made a video, stating that in fact, everyone was being very stupid and hypocritical for giving Nairo a platform and maybe they should stop, top players and figureheads all suspiciously stopped mentioning Technicals and Nairo for over a year and hoped everyone would forget about it, while they continued to collab with him (Remember, Stupid?) Talking about Nairo would put you in the Technicals Sympathiser pool and you’d be talked about as a Right Wing Grifter or whatever.

    You can debate whether these things are true. Most of this is intensely obvious if you’ve hovered around the smash community for a while, are a well adjusted/successful person, and haven’t been corrupted so deeply by ingroup outgroup bias so that everyone with a different political point of view is a fascist hateful lunatic and deserve to die. If you’re something like this, you can then peer in and admit ‘wow, everyone’s kind of a spineless loser.’

    This is a lot of chatter about the Smash community and not much about Hax. Hax’s death is tragic and nobody likes talking about the culture war, but you would have to be epically foolish if you tried to claim that Safetyism had no part to play in Hax’s death. What people on the right mean by Safetyism is where you go to extreme measures to make sure nobody should feel bad ever. A noble goal, but an ultimately stupid and counterproductive one, sounds like a situation that happened with some Leffen guy you might know?

    The Smash communities response is easy to predict once you realise most of them are in fact, very stupid, spineless, and suck at most things they do. I could’ve opened the door, let my friend inside, and given him the life-saving medicine he needed in about a minute. Instead, I peered out the window and watched as he died.

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      1. This is one of the dumbest things I’ve ever read. Proves the article right for a lot of things.

        I don’t think anyone would give you shit for shitting on nairo, but Hax’s testimony involved defending a “then innocent” ZeRo, acting like Salem was a victim, and continuously quoting a guy who punched teenagers in his late 20s.

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      2. Didn’t you say you left the smash community because you hated how many trans people there were?

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    1. “Hax’s death is tragic and nobody likes talking about the culture war, but you would have to be epically foolish if you tried to claim that Safetyism had no part to play in Hax’s death. What people on the right mean by Safetyism is where you go to extreme measures to make sure nobody should feel bad ever. A noble goal, but an ultimately stupid and counterproductive one, sounds like a situation that happened with some Leffen guy you might know?”

      I still feel bad about the whole situation. If you didn’t notice, even the author thinks the permanent ban is stupid as well since combining with Hax’s mental state, it’s the worst punishment. You don’t think the TO’s, who were Hax’s friends since 10 years ago, would also feel bad?

      Ultimately though, the Smash Community didn’t nudged Hax$.
      He jumped.

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      1. What I mean by safetyism is a sort of culture that was propped up in the Big Woke Storm, where people invented microaggressions and tonal indicators and whenever anyone made someone feel uncomfortable, they were Scum of the earth and should be disregarded as such. You’ll notice sleazy public figures claim specifically to have experienced ‘harassment’ a looooot. The argument is something like: ‘harassment is intolerable and unjust and the harassers must be terrible people, so all their points are mute.’

        Again, it’s the sort of lazy ‘ingroup is correct, outgroup are devil monkey worshippers’ rhetoric that is far more commonplace now than before. To be clear; I don’t think necessarily Safetyism is a bad thing when applied conservatively. Yes, getting death threats suck, and if you’re a particularly anxious person it’s not difficult to see how having a shitload of people say negative things about you would get you in a tizzy.

        In the Smash case; I would say a large percentage of the reason that Smash ‘figureheads’ refused to even speak Hax’s name was because people thought that Hax made Leffen feel Really Uncomfortable; by starting a ‘harassment campaign,’ or whatever buzzword about how Hax was a vicious fiend, and how he was inciting violence. I mean, come on, Everyone in Smash either has Low T or is on T. Nobody is going to punch you. The worst they’ll do is throw a crab. Even Technicals has gone to Smash events, despite people in the hundreds openly calling for his death on twitter (even Leffen doesn’t have this!) And he’s fine. This is the safetyism I mean – which is definitely a part of the left sweeping culture movement in the past 10 years.

        You can talk whether or not you think the Hax video was some extreme supermanifesto that deeply harmed Leffen. I don’t think it did. The video definitely has lots of stupid points that don’t really mean anything; but the thesis statement that ‘Leffen is high in dark triad’ is very obviously true if you’ve listened to him speak for at least 15 minutes.

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      2. hyper doesn’t know that technicals quite smash in the first place because someone he was bullying tried to run him over with a car

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    2. That’s what’s crazy to me about this denial that Hax’s ban was mismanaged. You see dysfunction amongst pretty much every organization in the world. From world governments to billion dollar companies, full of bright people trained to manage people, you still see significant dysfunction/malpractice in organizations all the time.

      But for some reason its inconceivable that the community made up of the socially maladjusted, who only 5 years ago had a mass expose of sexual assault allegations, was faultless in its handling of Hax. That playing parole officer (with zero qualifications to do so) to a mentally ill guy was a good idea. That exiling someone who was never physically violent to anyone or even meaningfully harassed anyone for reasons unrelated to desperation to be unbanned wasn’t problematic. That because he was “sick” (definitely not crazymaking), and continued to view his teenage bully as a terrible person, he deserved to be eternally shunned by the community that he was a part of since childhood.

      Shit is crazy. Just own up to it. TOs are unpaid volunteers and its understandable that they handled this case improperly but to act like Hax’s death was the inevitable outcome of being bipolar and nothing should’ve been done differently is insane.

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    3. “Safety-ism” tells me everything I need to know. You’re mad that people don’t want to play with you for being a hateful transphobe/homophobe. I can also tell that you’re an Ultimate player since you listed EE and Nairo as your talking points rather than people in the melee community. You’re either extremely young or a dumb as bricks right winger so let me try to explain this for you as simply as I can. Sure, smash is left wing, but to act like left wingers, and by extension smash, is full of dumbass simpletons who are anti-social and vengeful is just comical, especially considering that most data and studies show higher left wing political identification as the level of education increases. 

      You talk about the “goal” of making sure no one ever feels bad again which is the epitome of a strawman argument but I doubt you even care about that. I’m assuming you’re young so I’m gonna ask have you ever heard of the paradox of tolerance? The idea is that by tolerating everything, including intolerance, those intolerant people will then dominate the community and undermine the very principles of tolerance. So I ask you, what is this supposed to”safety-ism” covering? People shit talking about their skill? No one really cares. People not being nice? It happens. To continually and directly attack someone’s gender, sexual orientation, race, etc makes you a bad person. You cannot change those things. If I call you an annoying bigoted dumbass, you have to power to stop being an annoying dumbass. 

      I would much rather share community and games with people who are not weird and hateful. I have made numerous trans friends through the melee community and if removing bigots like you keeps them in the community rather than driving them away from it, I think that’s an amazing thing.

      Stop pussy footing around dog whistles like “safety-ism” and ranting about the “low T, soy left” and just say you’re upset that trans people exist in the same space as you. To me, the real low T activity is actively crying and bitching about how unfair it is to be a right winger in the smash space when you could literally do anything else. Low T activity is looking at community TOs, that do this for no monetary benefit, and treating them like the state or a totalitarian regime. Get a grip.

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      1. This response is fascinatingly arrogant, You mention strawmanning, which is interesting since I simply don’t claim most the things you say I do.

        “I’m assuming you’re young so I’m gonna ask have you ever heard of the paradox of tolerance?” …what? The signalling of age relevancy is so bizarre that I’m scared to know the answer to how old you are.

        “You talk about the “goal” of making sure no one ever feels bad again which is the epitome of a strawman argument but I doubt you even care about that.” Again, what? If it was a strawman argument then I’d be making an argument against something that doesn’t exist, but clearly safetyism has been incredibly prominent on the left in the last 10 years.

        “low T, soy left,” I disagree on calling the left soy, it perpetuates negative stereotypes about soy being unmasculine/bad, even though the current meat industry is one of the most destructive and despicable forces on earth, and any alternative, like soy, should be celebrated and much preferred 🙂

        TO’s are obviously lazy and often make bad decisions; I wouldn’t say being a Smash TO selects for ‘good decision making’

        I’m in the Bay, so if we were to have a ‘how many trans friends do you have competition’ I’m pretty sure you’d lose. You don’t sound particularly friendly.

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  5. You have a tendency to strawman the other side which pretty frustrating. Before his death, most “free-hax” people were actually not interested in banning Leffen. I don’t particularly like Technicals, but as one of the biggest free-Hax voices he explicitly said that he doesn’t think that Leffen should be banned for his harassment. Pointing out the double standards between the treatment of Leffen and Hax was not to say Hax should be unbanned and Leffen banned, it was to show the the degree of dysfunction amongst community organizers. A large portion of the “free-hax” side simply wanted them to both play. Now that Hax is dead frustration has boiled over and some people want Leffen banned for everything he’s done, and there may or may not be validity to that, but the majority of the discussion up to this point was very clearly not centered on a Leffen ban.

    This makes your complaint that the “free-hax” side is incoherent puzzling. It’s fairly simple: Hax was justifiably banned initially, but the handling of this ban over the years became severely mismanaged, highlighted by inconsistency handling similar cases in the past. This led to an intensification of his mental health issues, and to some degree, directly to his death. There should be a restructuring of community organization and ban enforcement to ensure that this doesn’t happen again. That coherent enough for you?

    In this post and your previous one, you dismiss Hax’s opinions on Leffen as crazy, and do so by minimizing Leffen’s actions. The “joke thumbnail” was of a video where Leffen pressured a fan into making up a slanderous story of Hbox to justify why everyone should hate him. Sure, not as obviously problematic as Hax’s video, but in many ways even more dangerous because of that. Worthy of a ban? I don’t think so honestly. But malicious enough that I don’t think Hax is crazy for his core belief that Leffen’s presence will erode the community.

    Banning Hax for recidivism was problematic because after a year of good behavior at tournaments, clearly expressing that he wasn’t a danger to anyone at them, he was given no indication of when a national unban would be possible. The narrative that he was completely unhinged for his belief that Leffen is deeply problematic was one of the main reasons there was no movement to an unban, so he made a ban appeal video explaining the grounding of his beliefs in reality, explicitly not out of a call to harass Leffen, but to change the narrative that he’s a dangerous lunatic.

    Equating Hax’s suicide attempts to a relationship context is also faulty. If a guy continuously told his suicidal girlfriend that maaaybe they can get back together if enough time passes and he she becomes good enough again (in an arbitrary, undefined way), continuously dangling the hope of getting back together with her in her face, only to snatch it away suddenly when some problematic aspects of that suicidality surfaces, to then coldly watch as her mental health spirals even more because of that, then yes, that guy is fucked up. The TOs shouldn’t have been playing parole officer.

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    1. Except the entirety of Leffen’s worst offenses happened like 12-14 years ago when he was a teenager, and Hax was unable to control his behavior for the last 5 years of his life. He also had no good reason to release the initial video (the one that got him indefinitely banned) to begin with. The parallel y’all try to continually draw between Leffen and Hax only exists because Technicals stepped in while defending his pedo buddy Zero.

      “This led to an intensification of his mental health issues, and to a degree, his death.” And you know this how?

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      1. jake more like retard Avatar
        jake more like retard

        you are so retarded it is not even worth responding to so i will do it in this guy’s place instead

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      2. I honestly do not care if Leffen’s actions are that bad or not or if he deserved to be banned or whatever. I personally don’t think he’s done anything worthy of a ban anyways. That’s not my point.

        The issue is that Hax never did anything that warranted such a long ban, and that the way his ban was managed was very poor. One of the main reasons Hax was banned for as long as he was was because it was seen as completely unhinged to hold his belief that Leffen is high in dark triad traits and is problematic to the scene. Dark triad is not a clinical term, and about 7% of the population is high in its traits. Leffen has been engaged in many many controversies because of his personality throughout his career. Even if you disagree with this profile of Leffen, it is not so divorced from reality as to be psychotic, given Leffen’s real pattern of assholeishness throughout his life.

        This paired with the clear double standards on ban enforcement, unclear/arbitrary appeal process, lack of transparency, social pressuring efforts to silence anyone who disagrees (Smash Factor), and unfair stipulations on behavior (never allowing him to even discuss his ban) demonstrate the highly problematic nature of how his ban was handled, irrespective of your, my, or anyone else’s feelings about Leffen’s character.

        And regardless of how you feel about the ban, to claim that it didn’t play a large role in making Hax’s mental health issues worse (and that logically, worse mental health issues greatly increase the risk of suicide), is very very dumb.

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  6. The videos where he attempted to clarify himself were also pretty unhinged. He genuinely thought he was the only person in possession of evidence.zip, like no one else ever read it, and he thought that if he explained it everyone would see things as he would.

    he was permanently banned for The Truth, in which he continued to spread unprovable malicious gossip about a “then innocent ZeRo”. These videos were not for the TOs, they were to build pressure on them by continuing to provoke the idiot tech fans who believe everything they’re told. This lead to harassment to people at tournaments, including verified threats, which is what got him banned.

    If anything, talk of his mental illness is relevant to give a reason as to why he didn’t understand and couldn’t control his actions, and may have given him a special circumstance for an appeal had he gotten it under control and took it seriously, which he had shown he was capable of doing. “Recovery is not a linear path” as he said.

    This would have been the way to an unban. He was not banned because he was a direct threat, it was because his actions continuously lead to harassment at the hands of the idiots he continuously tried to manipulate

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  7. why are you paying people to draw fictional minors? why are you creating scenarios of them in your head?

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  8. You are all at fault Avatar
    You are all at fault

    Proving that Smash will never be a part of the FGC and that you’ll never be more than a tourist.

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